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GENERAL BAPTISTS.

QUERIES AND REPLIES. From themiuutes of the Seventy-ninth annual

Bath Gate, September; 1848. Association of the New Connexion of General Baptists, held at Boston, in June, 1848, it

QUERY.--Is the fellowship mentioned in the

Acts of the Apostles, (ii. 48, the only collection appears that the number of churches in the association is 130; stated ministers, about 118;

which the New Testament authorises the disoccasional preachers, not named. The total

ciples of Christ to make on the first day of the number of members in these churches is 18,282 ;

week, and from which not only the wants of the being a clear increase since the year preceding

| poor are to be supplied, but also all other neof 356. Chapels, 174; preaching stations, 96;

cessary expenses connected with the church are Sunday scholars, upwards of 23,000; Sunday

to be paid-such as paying for bread and wine

used at the Lord's table-the labors of evangeschool teachers, upwards of 4000.

lists-- purchasing bibles and tracts for distriWESLEYAN METHODISTS.

bution--rent and cleaning of the meeting-house, Total number of members under the care support of Sunday schools, &c. ? Or onght

of the British and Irish Conferences .. 459,454 there not to be a distinct and separate collecLast year ... ... ... ... ... ...

.... ... 464,215
... 464,215 tion for each of these necessary objects ? R.M.

ANSWER.-- We read that the first disciples Decrease ... ... ... ... ... ...

4861 | continued steadfast in the apostles' doctriue, in Deduct transfer to the Canadian Con

the fellowship (contribution), in the breaking of ference ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 1987

1987 | bread, and in prayers. The injunction of an Total decrease ...

... 2874 apostle is as follows:-“ Now, as I commandThe number of regular ministers and preachersed the congregation in Galatia, so do you. on trial, and those who are supernumerary or Upon the first day of the week, let every one superannuated, is as follows:

of you give as the Lord hath prospered him, In Great Britain ... ... ... ...

...
...

1195 | putting it into the treasury," I Cor. xvi. 1-2.

I In Ireland ... ... ... ... ... .......

163 We are commanded to “do good to all men, On Foreign Stations ... ... ... ... 368 especially to the household of faith.” Perso

nally we are advocates of one fellowship, or

Total 1726 collection on the first day of the week, and only To these must be added, as a chief source of one. This is to supply all the necessities of the supply for a very large portion of the smaller church collectively in which it is made; and chapels and preaching stations, about 15,000 if the rich and poor would all be obedient, and “Local Preachers,” gratuitious labourers, whose voluntarily devote of their substance as the names are published in the “Lists of appoint- Lord had prospered them, there would be, in ments” in the respective circuits in which they most churches, more than sufficient to meet reside. About 30,000 of the older and more every demand. But should a sister church experienced members, fill various offices, as require aid from her brethren, or should unclass leaders, prayer leaders, &c. No return is believers, by reason of famine, &c. be suffering made of Day and Sabbath Schools, or of teachers from want--we would, as a matter of expediency and scholars.

and of duty, advocate calling the church together Besides the above, the Minutes report a some evening in the week, to make a special number of members under the care of the collection for that temporary and occasional deWesleyan Conference in Canada, in connexion mand. If one such meeting be not sufficient, with the British Conference, namely 23,842; it could be easily repeated at any subsequent and the number of ministers belonging to the time. If the New Testament point out a better same, 177.

and less objectionable plan of a church disMETHODIST NEW CONNEXION.

charging her obligation to society, perhaps some

brother will present it for our consideration and On a comparison of the number of members

| adoption, if needful. reported at the Conference in 1847, it appears that, after making up for deaths and removals, there was a clear increase of 453; of these, 326

Buckingham, September, 1848. had been added in the English circuits, and 173

Please answer the following query--How in Canada. In Ireland there had been a de

does the Spirit help our infirmities, as spoken crease of 46 members.

of in Rom. viii. 26 ?

T. H.

Nottingham, September, 25. NUMBER OF CHAPELS. - The number of

In what way can the Holy Spirit of God be places of worship built aud supported by the

| said to intercede for the saints, with groanings voluntary efforts of Britih Nonconformists, is as under :- England, 10,729; Wales, 2270;

which cannot be uttered ? Rom. vii. 26. W.S. Scotland, 1989; total, 15,080.

ANSWER. — These queries, originating with

two different parties, but referring to the same All who desire to render themselves more

subject, are, of course, placed together. By the familiar with the contents of the Almanack, term infirmities, we understand bodily weakmay do so for the small sum of three pence. I nesses, and nothing more. The sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared | day, notwithstanding it is an acknowledged fact with the glory that shall be revealed in our glo- that they have not realized the expectations of rified body. The phrase Holy Spirit is not in their benevolent supporters, in reforming the the text; nor do we think the apostle had in state of society. We hope to see the day when, his mind any such incongruity as is apparent in whatever others may do, the disciples of Christ, the passage which represents that divine agent if they must have schools on the first day of making intercession with groanings which can- the week, will collect together, in separate

not be uttered. Then, again, if there be two classes, the young from ten to sixteen years of | intercessors between God and man, one must be age, under the tuition of intelligent brothers || in heaven, and the other in the heart of the dis- and sisters of the church. Perhaps it was for || ciple. The Spirit in man may make intercession some such purpose as this, that so many elders

with God in sighs and tears which cannot be were ordained in every church, when competent fully expressed in words; but the Saviour, who to teach others—those well acquainted with the searches the heart, knows what is the mind of history, facts, testimony, and morality of the

the Spirit, and, according to the will of God, Bible. Such a course would enable the church Il makoth intercession for the saints :

to impress the young and tender mind with the • He knows what sore temptations mean,

only work containing the power of God to the For He has felt the same."

salvation of every one that believes. In this For the edification of our new subscribers, we way much good might be done, and many saved may probably repeat, in our next number, the from the snares and pollutions of this guilty remarks published in 1837, from the pen of world. As to the disciples of Christ devoting Brother Campbell, on this subject, commencing two or three hours of their time on the first day with the 18th verse of the chapter. Want of of the week in teaching children the alphabet space alone forbids its introduction at this time. | --when it can be done six days in the week, in (See Christian Messenger, vol. i. page 270, old almost every town and village throughout the series.)

J. W. :) country, for ld. or 2d. -- appears to us little

better than a waste of time. We cannot, howBulwell, October, 1848.

ever, pursue the sabject further this month. Does a Sunday school, so named, constitute

J. W. any part of the church of Christ? If not, is it

The following, being unanswered, are open right to appropriate a fellowship of the saints

| to the brethren to forward replies : for its support?

J. R.

“Is there not much good done amongst the ANSWER. -- There remains much to be said,

| poor by what are designated “ Dorcas Socie

ties p"--and ought there not to be something of especially to our own brethren, regarding Sun

the kind connected with every congregation of day schools, the particulars of which we cannot

disciples ?” enter upon at the present time. For many years past we have been unable to discover the propriety of a father of a large, or even of a small

FAMILY WORSHIP & GOVERNMENT. family, leaving his wife and children, on the Dear Sir-In reading the article on “ Family first day of the week, to spend his time in one Worship and Government,” in your valuable of these popular seminaries, particularly if he periodical, the following questions were suggesthave but little leisure during the week for the ed to my mind :improvement of himself and his household. His 1. Where is the Scripture (i. e. New Testafirst obligation is at home. It is not true that ment) command for “family worship,” if it be the man who blesses, or waters others, shall | a DUTY ? Or where is the Scripture precedent, himself be blessed, if he neglect his own family if it be a matter of EXPEDIENCY? and friends, while making an attempt to bless 2. Some persons say that the morning and others. It is said of Abraham, the father of the evening sacrifice of the Levites, was the type of faithful, “ I know him, that he will command | Christian family worship; if so, where is the his children and his household after him; and antitype ? and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do 3. If family worship be either a matter of justice and judgment, that the Lord may bring duty or expediency — as the Christian wife is, upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of by the New Dispensation, the equal of the hus. him, that all the nations of th eearth shall be band (in the family, though not in the church) blessed in him.” But the inquiry is, do Sunday -is she not the representative of the husband, schools form any part of the church of Christ? and as such, the person appointed to lead the The answer must be in the negative-that they family worship in his absence ? do not form any such part. But there is no 4. Some persons say, that as the eldest son valid reason why there should not be a Sunday of the Jew, in the absence or death of the faschool in connection with the church. We are ther, was the representative of the Jewish facommanded to do good to all men; yet all men mily, so the eldest son, if in a Christian family, do not form part of the church of Christ any is the representative of the family likewise. Is more than Sunday schools. We would not op not that an irrational opinion, as, under the pose even the popular Sunday schools of the Christian dispensation, the eldest son has no

superiority over the junior members of the fa- company, having been translated out of the nily, but is actually in subjection to the mother kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of God's is well as the father?

dear Son. The sister referred to went with us As the friend who sent the article on family to Wigan, and heard you speak in the evening; vorship is a reader of the Harbinger, he would, I she was slain by the power of the truth, and probably, send the number containing these would have made her confession that evening, questions to the writer of that article, and they but there was not opportunity. However, she will very likely call forth a satisfactory answer, did so shortly after, and on the 25th instant one way or the other. The mention of these was buried in a grave of water, to rise with her questions, would greatly oblige,

Lord to newness of life. The individual whom A CHRISTIAN BROTHER. I named to you, also came to see us at Leigh; To the Editor of the Harbinger.

he has been a Mormon 5 or 6 years, having visited Navoo, and had personal interviews with

Joseph Smith. After thoroughly examining and ITEMS OF NEWS. investigating the claims of Mormonism, both as

to its principles and operation, he renounced it NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE, OCTOBER 25, 1848. as a complete system of iniquity and delusion. --Our infant community at Howden continues The book of Mormon is a craft invented to get to increase. On Thursday, October 12, after money, and the doctrine of the priesthood is all proclamation, two men rose and confessed the a deception. He approved of our order, teachSon of God, avowing their purpose of walking ing, &c. but is too much bewildered with spiritin obedience to his commands; and early next ualism to receive and practice the simple truth. morning they were both baptized into Christ. May we learn of Christ, and practice what we I am happy to state that our audience also in- know, that we may come up to the measure of creases; indeed, were it possible to bestow con- the fulness of Christ.-Your brother in Christ, tinued labour on this locality, I have little doubt

WILLIAM TURNER. of a rich harvest. To me it has been a source of great encouragement, and of continued grati RHOSLLANERCHRUGOG, DENBIGHSHIRE, N. tude to our Sovereign Lord. As may be an | WALES, Nov. 9.-Since I wrote to you before, ticipated their knowledge is very limited, but we have received into the church of Christ, 3 their desire for progress is pleasingly evident, from the Baptists, 1 from the Methodists, 1 and their disposition to use what they do pos- from the Independents, and l from the Free sess. You perceive that I am at present labor Thinkers. Our meeting-house is well attended. ing in the vicinity of Gateshead, the Newcastle We number now 24 brethren, and 22 sisters, church having rented a Primitive Methodist all in love and union. We have also baptized chapel for a few weeks. As I pass to and fro, 2 to the church at Cefn Mawr, and also 1 from I am more than ever impressed with the awful | the Baptists.

EDWARD CLARKE. condition of the world and the church. “Woe unto them that laugh now,” said our blessed

WIGAN, NOVEMBER 19. — Brother Henry Lord, in a day of religious lawlessness and hy- Perkins and myself made an engagement to pocrisy, remarkably typical of the age in which visit a brother and sister who left this town we live. Is it not mournfully true that there

some six or eight months ago, for the benefit of is more of the spirit of carnal mirth, than of their health ; they are greatly improved, and I sympathy with the Man of Sorrows -- more of believe are now spending their strength to prothe spirit of commerce, of accumulating earthly mote the cause of the blessed Redeemer. The treasure, than of the spirit of him to whom it place of their abode is called Whittle Hills, or was more blessed to give than to receive; or of New Southport, which is 11 miles from Wigan, him who had “continual sorrow and heaviness 6 from Preston, and about 8 or 9 from Southof heart for his brethren according to the flesh.” | port. There is a useful arrangement of baths, To surround themselves with the comforts and and in the course of a year or two it is likely to luxuries of life -- to “ dwell in ceiled houses,

become a popular visiting place. We arrived while the temple of the Lord lay waste," was

there about half-past ten, and spoke to the peoa crime which excited the holy indignation of

ple in the open air; in the afternoon, we met the God of Israel. Alas! alas! amid the deso

for the purpose of establishing a Christian lations of the Christian temple, who shall claim

church. An individual present with whom our exemption from guilt ?. I often feel as though

brother had been acquainted some time, desired our people have acted prematurely in crying re

to join in worship with us : he said he had been form.--Yours in the hope of better days, baptized eight years ago by the “latter-day

W. MACDOUGALE.

saints," who afterwards urged upon him the

book of Mormon, and several other things, to LEIGH, NOVEMBER 12.-While there is re- which he objected; as long as they held to the joicing in the presence of the angels of God over Bible he would go with them, but no furtherone sinner saved, so there should be by the so he left them. He expressed a desire to folsaints on earth. Help us, then, to rejoice in the low the teaching of Jesus and his apostles. We Lord, that another has been added to our little had a most solemn and refreshing meeting, most of the hearers being in tears. After at church notice that I cannot be their evangelist tending to the apostles' doctrine, the fellowship, for 1849. I shall probably travel in Eastern the breaking of bread, and the prayers, five men Virginia, which I much prefer to being stationmade the good confession, and desired to be ary; I have been here eleven years, which is baptized. Brother Perkins baptized them into | quite long enough. I may go to New York, Christ, for the remission of all their past sins, but at present am not sure. The good Lord, and they went on their way rejoicing. Two of who has kindly watched over me all my life them had been connected with the Wesleyan long, will, I trust, make the way before me, Methodists, and the other three had not pre- so that I shall still be useful in the world. viously made any profession of religion.--Yours

J. HENSHALL. in love,

T. Coop. BANFF, Nov. 15.--I am very glad that the

OBITUARY. meeting at Glasgow went off well, and that good HUDDERSFIELD, NOVEMBER 8.- The voice will be done by the resolutions come to by the of lamentation has once more been heard in the brethren. Since that time we have had a meet- midst of us. Our beloved Sister Howorth, estiing of the north district, including Aberdeen, / mable for domestic graces and Christian virtues, Frazersburgh, Turriff, Pitsligo, and Banff, con- has been suddenly removed into the spirit land. vened at Pitgair, about six miles from Banff, She has left a number of sweet young children, which was more central. The meeting was a for ever destitute of that sanctified solace - a good one, great harmony prevailing among the mother's love -- though still with the consolabrethren, who seemed to be fully alive to the tion remaining which they may feel now, and important position we occupy, as the living understand afterwards, that they have one Faamong the dead. We were unanimous in coming ther upon earth, and another in heaven. to the resolution, that as there was great need! Our sister was delivered of a daughter on the for some effort on the part of the brethren in | 14th of October, and the promise of recovery our district, we would unite together, assisting was bright for a few days. But, alas ! inflamand encouraging one another in the good work, mation began, severe and rapid in its ravages. of spreading the knowledge of salvation among She expired on the 21st, and was buried on the our fellow-men. We appointed a committee of 23rd, embalmed---not with spices—but with the four, to consult and correspond with the com- tears and sadness of those who were drawn tomitte at Nottingham, which will be conducted wards her by the meekness of her spirit, and by Brother Morrison, of Mill Craigston, who the purity of her walk. is Secretary to the Committee. We will do what We are happy to state that her confidence in we can for the Harbinger. We are standing still God was unshaken, and her hope of eternal life, at present, but I have no doubt if we could have through a risen Saviour, illuminated the face of a few week's labour of an efficient evangelist, | the angel of death. much good might be done. The impression We may well say, with the ancient Hebrew made by Brother Campbell is still alive, and will monarch, when spared a little longer — “ The result, I trust, in maturity, salvation, and joy. grave cannot praise thee; death cannot cele

A. CAMERON.

brate thee; they that go down into the pit can

not hope for thy truth: the living, the living, RICHMOND, (U. S.) Oct. 24--Dear Sister:

he shall praise thee as I do this day. The faYour welcome letter came to hand about twenty

ther to the children shall make known thy days after its date, and gave me great pleasure.

truth.” . I am now writing to my Brother George, and

Yes, we respond to this moving appeal! It shall mail yours with his. I have been think

strikes the proper chords. The living ! the ing that perhaps you would attend the Co-ope

living! are called with double emphasis to be ration meeting in Scotland. I fear the result

alive in earnest-to live as the heirs of eternity of that meeting, because of the ill-temper and

and God may be expected to live. O thou, who conceit of many of our people. These meetings

hast been the refuge of thy people in all geneare sadly misnamed. They are rather distrac

rations, help us to live the life of faith in thy tion than co-operation meetings. Instead of

dear Son; and bring us at last to thy kingdom uniting to work together, they unite to talk

and glory, by our Lord Jesus Christ. against each other, and then go home to oppose

G. G. each other with all their might. I pray that this may not be the misfortune of the meeting in Scotia. I hope they had great peace and

CONCLUDING REMARKS. concert of action. Many have been added to the Lord in Virginia this summer. I was at a In concluding the present number of the meeting two weeks ago, when twenty-three were | HARBINGER, which terminates the volume, and immersed; and in the same week I immersed is the twelfth of our humble endeavours to perfive at another meeting. At another place, forty suade men to embrace the principles and pracmiles off, forty were added in one week, about tices of Primitive Christianity, we may, with a month ago. I have given the Richmond 'propriety take a glance at the past, the present,

the

and the future prospects of this generation. I in this part of the world, the diffusion of that

The year 1848, with all its busy scenes — pure truth which has made such rapid advances marvellous and eventful occurrences, foreign in the United States— is an increase of circulaand domestic, public and private-will soon be | tion. This we hope to realize at the commencemingled with those of the antediluvian age, not ment of the forthcoming volume. to be recalled until the day of final retribution

J. W. breaks in upon the attention of a slumbering and guilty world.

NEVER DESPAIR. It was anticipated by the wise and good in the kingdom of Christ, long ago, that the middle of This motto I give to the young and the old, the nineteenth century would be fraught with More precious by far than a treasure of gold; revolutions and changes, unheard of and unpar- | 'Twill prove to its owner a talisman rare, ralelled, throughout the civilized world. So it More potent than magic—'tis "never despair!” has come to pass. The progress of these revolutions, both moral and political, within the

No!“never despair," whatso'er be thy lot, last few years, but more especially during the

Though Fortune's gay sunshine illumine it not; last twelve months, has been extensive, rapid,

Midsit gloom, and despite its dark burden of care, and surprising, beyond all calculation,

If thou canst not be cheerful, yet “never despair.” Now, as “ coming events cast their shadows what if the sailor a coward should be. before," many and greater reforms have yet to When the tempest comes down in its wrath on be accomplished in the mysterious future; and these, by the arrangement of Divine Providence, | And the mad billows leap like wild beasts from are to be brought to perfection by the agency

the lair, of man. Our intention is, therefore, still to To make him their prey if he yield to despair ! take some humble part in carrying forward the conflict of renovation and reform,

But see him amid the fierce strife of the waves, To be associated with the moral and spirit. While around his frail vessel the storm-demon ual, rather than with the physical and political

raves, movements in society, is our fixed determina How he rouses his soul up, to do and to dare, tion. The former will move on, and the latter

And, while there is life left, will“never despair.” cannot stand still. Every man in his own order.

Thou too art a sailor, and Time is the sea, Happiness is the chief good--the supreme de

And Life the frail vessel that upholdeth thee; sire of all. But this heavenly boon can only

Fierce storms of misfortune will fall to thy share, be realized by imparting happiness and comfort

But, like thy brave prototype, “never despair!" to others. Hence if, from love of the truth, we water others, the blessing of reace is by this | Let not the wild tempest thy spirit affright; means assuredly secured to ourselves. Who, Shrink not from the storm, though it come in its then, proposes to be selfish, indolent, or luke

might; warm, in the midst of the struggles and groans Be watchful-be ready-for shipwreck prepare : of a miserable and dying world?

Keep an eyeon the life-boat, but“ never despair !" In reviewing the contents of the volume which is now closed, we see much that is cal WESLEY'S LIBERALTIY.-Perhaps no Engculated, in future days, to instruct and edify | lishman, since the days of Barnard Gilpin, has the candid inquirer after truth and good order, 1 given so much away as did John Wesley, When and, by repeated perusal of which, the essays, his income was thirty pounds a year, he lived in their intrinsic value and importance to so

on twenty-eight and saved two pounds for charity. ciety, will rise in the estimation of our readers. | Next year he had sixty pounds, and still living An expression of gratitude is due to all our

on twenty-eight he had 32 to spend. A fourth friends, contributors and patrons---- more espe- | vear raised his income to one hundred and twenty cially for their promise of continued support | pounds, and steadfast to his plan, the poor got and co-operation, which we hope duly to appre £92. In the year 1775, the Accountant-General ciate and reciprocate.

sent him a copy of the Excise Order for a reIn the ensuing volume, commencing with

ensuing volume, commencing with turn of plate. “Rev Sir: as the commissioners January 1st, 1849, we hope to be punctual and

| cannot doubt but you have plate, for which you persevering; and to preserve a select, metho have hitherto neglected to make entry,” &c. to dical, interesting, and acceptable arrangement, which he wrote this memorable answer—“Sir, to its completion.

I have two silver tea spoons at London and two We have this month presented 16 pages of a ' at Bristol. This is all the plate which I have new and modern type, purchased entirely for the at present; and I shall not buy any more while HARBINGER: so that, although we are confined

so many around me want bread.”--J. WESLEY. to a particular weight of paper by the Post Office authorities, yet an extra quantity of small Printed by Edmund Renals, at his Office, No. 2, type, equal to several pages of matter, can always South-parade, in the parish of Saint Peter, Notting.

ham, and published by the Proprietor, JAMES be employed. And now, all that is required to

WALLIS, of Park-terrace, at No. 12, Peck-lane, give us stability and spirit in carrying forward' in the said Parish.-Friday, Dec. 1, 1848.

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