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concourse was present, with Elder Again, you consider the one rightDavid Jones, of Eastern Pennsyl- eousness in Rom. v. 11, to mean bapvania. My father made an elaborate tism for the remission of sins, and it address on the occasion. I followed is only sectarian prejudice that prehim with a statement of the reasons vents people from perceiving this of my change of views, and vindicated consequently you must consider all the primitive institution of baptism, the blessings stated at the end of the and the necessity of personal obe- chapter as the result of obedience to dience.

baptism. As not one word about To my great satisfaction, my father, baptism can be found in the whole mother, and eldest sister, my wife, chapter, your assertion that the one and three other persons, besides my- righteousness means baptism has no self, were that same day immersed foundation to rest upon. into the faith of that great proposition Mr. Campbell, in the version edited on which the Lord himself said he by him, in place of the one rightwould build his church. The next eousness, renders it one act of obeLord's day some twenty others made dience. What, then, are we to una similar confession, and so the work derstand to be the meaning of the progressed, until in a short time al- one translation or the other ? The most an hundred persons were immer- comparison stated by the Apostle sed. This company, as far as I am from Romans v. 12 to the end of the yet informed, was the first community chapter, surely can never be underin the country that was immersed into stood as a comparison between that primitive, simple, and most sig- | Adam's one offence and baptism. I nificant confession of faith in the di- think it is quite evident that the comvine person and mission of the Lord parison is between the one offence of Jesus Christ, without being brought the first Adam, and the one act of before a church to answer certain doc- obedience of the second Adam, in trinal questions, or to give a history laying down his life at the command of all their feelings and emotions, in of his heavenly Father, as an atoning those days falsely called Christian sacrifice, in the room of guilty sinexperience; ” as if a man could have ners. Now as nothing can atone for Christian experience before he was a moral guilt but moral merit, and the Christian !

A. C. merit of Christ's sacrifice being infi

nite, it superabounded over the one

offence of Adam, by which alone sin CORRESPONDENCE. can be pardoned in consistency with

all the moral perfections of God. DEAR SIR-In your reply to the The sacrifices under the law were observations I made on baptism, in appointed for the remission of sins, my letter of 15th May, you admit and forgiveness was promised by obethat baptism is a figurative institu- dience to that appointment ; but as tion, consequently possessing no mo- they possessed no moral merit, and ral merit. But you affirm that obe- were only figurative institutions, and dience to it restores man to the favor were designed to shadow forth that of God. This I consider only a bold one sacrifice which Jesus offered assertion, as the Scriptures nowhere when he came to put away sin by say so. I presume you will admit the sacrifice of himself-hence the that Simon of Samaria was obedient Apostle affirms that it is impossible to baptism : his case proves that that the blood of bulls and of goats something more than obedience to could take away sin. Now if figurabaptism is necessary to restore man tive institutions under the law could to the favor of God.

| not take away sins, how is it possible

for a figurative institution under the the knowledge of God. To their own gospel to wash away sins, as both shame it was spoken. Simon, thereare figures of the same glorious event, fore, had not either a correct knowonly with this difference—the one ledge of God, or that contrition of was a figure that this would be done heart which leads to the renunciation by sacrifice, the other that it has of covetousness and every other crime. been done by sacrifice, baptism being Hence, like many others, he wanted an exhibition that Jesus was deliver- to buy and sell the free gift of God, ed for our offences, and raised again but was rejected in a moment for his for our justification.

presumption and impiety. This, By giving this a place in your next however, is not the matter of inquiry number you will much oblige, between us.

A Scorch BAPTIST. Is baptism, as given to the world Edinburgh, 14th July, 1848. | by the Apostles, the divinely consti

tuted medium of bringing intelligent

believing penitents into the enjoyREPLY TO SCOTCH BAPTIST, NO. II.

ment of peace and pardon before Dear Sir-In reply to yours of the God ? I take the affirmative of this. 14th instant, permit me to say, that Will you, dear sir, from the testimony when a sinner receives the gospel, of God, prove to the contrary ? Not there is no merit on his part, any one inspired example or precept to more than when he receives food for that effect can be produced since the the daily sustenance of his body. In Spirit of God was poured out from neither case has he anything whereof on high on the day of Pentecost. to boast before God. All is of pure Respecting baptism not being menfavour. So baptism, while it cannot tioned in the 5th chapter of Romans, create or purchase anything for the permit me to remind you that the sinner-Christ, by his death and re- Apostle was writing to those who surrection, having accomplished this had been buried with Christ in bapfor him-is, nevertheless, the consti- tism. Indeed, all the Epistles were tuted medium or channel of the re- addressed to those who, in this remission of sins, the Holy Spirit, and spect, were the brethren of Jesus, of a well-founded hope of eternal life. Paul, and of the whole church. For

The brethren at Rome, some of Christ loved the church, and gave whom were in Jerusalem on the day himself for it, that he might cleanse of Pentecost, heard the first gospel ser- it with the washing of water by mon, believed it, and were justified the word ; that he might present it a by faith after, or when they were glorious church, not having spot, or baptized into the name of the Father, wrinkle, or any such thing. There of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, are other chapters in the Epistles to and not before. Then it was they the brethren in which neither faith, had peace with God through our Lord repentance, nor baptism are menJesus Christ, by whom they received tioned, except by implication. Pray, the atonement, or reconciliation. what does this prove against baptism

The case of Simon of Samaria shows for the remission of sins ? truly that something more than bap- The righteousness, or justification, tism, or even faith, (for he believed) spoken of in the 5th chapter of Rois necessary to restore man to the fa- mans, is not the same thing as bapvor of God. His heart was not right tism ; still the latter may, and does, in the sight of God : he was in the lead to the enjoyment of the former. gall of bitterness, and still bound by Therefore, being justified by faith iniquity. Paul said of some other through baptism), these parties had baptized believers, that they had not peace with God, through our Lord

Jesus Christ. Thus, by one act of apostleship for the obedience of faith obedience, many are constituted among all nations, and that the great righteous before God, and go on secret which he proclaimed concerntheir way rejoicing.

ing the resurrection of the dead, was You say the sacrifices under the in accordance with the prophetic law were appointed for the remission writings and the commandment of of sins, and forgiveness was promised the eternal God, made known to all by obedience to those appointments. the Gentiles, in order to the obedience I suppose you mean to say that some of faith. He (Jesus) is the author of the sacrifices were appointed for of the eternal salvation to all them this purpose. Now, suppose the par that obey him. Indeed, the obedience ties refused to obey, would they have of faith, and not faith alone, is inhad the forgiveness of sins ? Or, sisted upon both for saint and sinner, suppose they had brought the halt, from Genesis to Revelations; and the lame, or the blind, for sacrifice, that man is guilty of a daring crime or a wheaten offering, instead of a who attempts to separate them. bloody victim, although there is no

Yours benevolently, moral merit in either, would they

J. WALLIS. have been accepted? You know, ! July 17, 1848.. sir, they would not; nor will God accept of any of the institutions of

PEACE AND UNION. man, the teaching of Anti-Christ to the contrary notwithstanding !! In my last I did not give Brother

If periodical sin-offerings, which Gray great credit for delicacy of feelwere appointed under the law (there-ing, or propriety in judgment; nor by calling sins to remembrance again | do I now intend to compliment him every year) answered the purpose for for stating his meaning with precision. the time being, how much more shall | In my first letter I related some facts, not he who, through the eternal and amongst others these two: Spirit, offered himself without spot 1. It is “ an understood and fununto God, purge the conscience from damental principle in the (Baptist) dead works to serve the one living church (in Dundee) that a member and true God ? That a sinner, be- going to a distance could hold fellowfore he can stand in the presence of ship with any church-open commuthe Saviour with acceptance, must be nion-and I have heard of some with enlightened in his mind, changed in Independent churches ; and when his state and affections, and justified they return, neither the church nor in his person and character, is ob- any one has a right, and would be vious to all persons of faith and set down as disorderly, were they to reflection. This position, to my refer to such conduct.” mind, is attained by the obedience of 2. “ This church will not receive faith. With you, it appears to be into its fellowship any who are unaccomplished by faith alone, obe- baptized, but admits all who are, to dience following as a matter of course. whatever denomination they may Still, if I understand you correctly, belong.” pardon, or justification, is complete In his first communication Brother without it; and the sinner, even Gray boldly affirmed that their funwhile in the kingdom of Satan, can damental principle is a fundamental enjoy these distinguished blessings principle of the Reformation, or raand privileges. How to reconcile ther what is better, of the New Tesyour creed with the teaching of the tament; but it now appears (very Holy Spirit is the great difficulty. dimly, I allow) that he never meant Paul said that he received grace and I this ! He considers that parties act

ing as do some in the Baptist church, amongst Christians, that is not as are fit subjects for solicitude and in old as the New Testament.] struction. However, he has asserted that the

LITERARY NOTICE. practice of the Meadow-side Baptist | The Worship of God in Public opposed church, stated in item 2 above, is in to the Voice of Scripture and the Practice accordance with the fundamental of the Primitive Christians." We have principles of the Reformation, and been content to suffer our forms of public

worsbip to remain nearly in the same adulthe New Testament. The practice terated state in which the Reformers left is not acted on in Nottingham, as them” (Simpson.) “ What mean ye by this appears from your note. But this is service? is an inquiry that may with great

fairness be put, and every reasonable man not a question which should be de

will feel it incumbent upon him to give a cided except by the unerring stan

clear and distinct reply to it(Walford.' dard. The opinion of any brother, Houlston and Stoneman, London.--Such is however eminent, can be of no avail, the title of a tract of 12 pages received this

há month. The introduction commences with and is totally unnecessary if the

the following interrogation :--Is public worBible substantiates his position.

ship, namely, the union of the church with Will Brother Gray, therefore, an- | the world in the worship of God, sanctioned swer the following questions, which, by the voice of Scripture ? If not, is it exindeed, embody those at the end of pedient, or calculated to promote the con

version of the unbelieving portion of our my last letter ? I would beg that he

congregations ? That this pamphlet has keep specially in view that the per been published by some persons who are sesons to be admitted may belong to riously inquiring the way out of that laby

rinth of religious confusion in which the vaany of the denominations, and that it

rious bodies of sectarians are now engulphed, is absurd to talk of improper or guilty there can be no doubt. But when individu. practices being justifiable because | als commence their egress out of Spiritual they arise from opinion.

Babylon, great care should be manifested

that they neither stop short of, nor pass by, Question 1. Is there any command, Spiritual Jerusalem. To have recourse to precept, or example in the New Tes the primitive Fathers for direction wll not tament, warranting a baptized be- elicit much for the correction of error. Even

in the apostolic age the system of iniquity liever either occasionally or gene

was already at work; and therefore the inrally to hold communion with the

spired testimonies of the Evangelists—the unbaptized ?

Acts of the Apostles, and their Epistles to 2. If not, where is the proof that

the Churches, are alone the infallible sources

of information on these subjects. Paul dethe New Testament warrants that a

clares that he taught the same things in person pursuing such conduct should every church. What their order of worship be received into general or occasional was cannot be learned from any one church,

but may be inferred from the study of the communion with the church?

whole. It is expressed in the following I still adhere to my old name. If compendium :--"'They (the disciples of Brother Gray had any objection to Christ) were steadfast in the doctrine, in the being wounded by the lance of an

fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in

the prayers of the Apostles." The first ques“ unknown,” he should not have run

tion to determine is, what constitutes a against it. Still I consider it better, Christian disciple ? This may be settled by in discussing such matters, to do so stating the facts they believed, the commands

they obeyed, the privileges they enjoyed. anonymously, because principle is

That they were all baptized into the name of more entitled to influence than per the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in sons can ever be.

hope of a joyful resurrection from the dead Yours, FRATER. into the presence and likeness of their Lord

and King, must be obvious to all who read Dundee, 11th July, 1848.

the Testament with a candid and obedient INothing ought to be received into mind. This comprised the first part of the

Apostles' work. Teach all nations, &c. the faith or worship of the church, 'The four following items are noticed in or be made a term of communion 'the Tract, and we are sorry to add but with

little reference to the Scriptures in order to possession, we could not invite Mr. Thomas sustain them :--1. At what exercises be- to visit the brethren in Nottingham and Jievers were, or were not, allowed to be pre- the vicinity; and that the officers be resent, in the primitive assemblies. 2. The quested to communicate with him on the manner in which unbelievers were dismissed subject. Accordingly a letter was written, after the first services. 3. That different , of which the following is a copy : classes of persons were required to occupy

Nottingham, July 5, 1818. different parts of the church or place of meet Dear Sir_ The letter of introductio. given to you ing. 4. That all who were incapable of par- by our much-esteemed Brother James Beadman, of ticipating in the Lord's supper were ex

New York, with the announcement of your address

in the city of London, was duly received yesterday cluded from worship.--We cannot express

morning. In the evening of the same day, they our desire better than that the writers of the were both read and made the subject of coneideraTract may be safely removed from the pre

tion by the brethren assembled for worship in Bar

ker gate meeting-house, in this town. cincts of Babylon, the Mother of Harlots.

While the brethren all felt desirous of manifesting If we mistake not they will have to approxi

proper respect for the letter sent by Brother Beadmate close to the Apostles of the Lord, by man, who some few years ago emigrated from us to commencing at the only proper starting

the United States, yet from certain facts known to

them, they could not but deeply regret that you had point, beginning at Jerusalem, Luke xxvi.

abjureo all connection with, and even avowed open 45-49; Acts ii.

hostility to. th se whom we consider to be the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ in the Un ted States,

ren uncing most if not all that you had learnt whilst CORRESPONDENCE RESPECTING among them as being altogether erroneous and vain. JOHN THOMAS.

With these facts before us-while we desire not to

exercise any power or control over any man in carryAs it is now well known to some, if not ing

iog ont his conviction of truth before God-it was

nevertheless deemed by the brethren present, inclu. to most of our brethren, that John Thomas,

ding all the officers of the church, to be inexpedient M.D. of Richmond, Virginia, is in this and improper on our part, either to invite you to Notcountry, and that he has for the last 10 or 12 | tingha

tingham, or in any way to lend you our influence in

furthering the object of your visit to this country. years been more or less connected with our

We remain, dear sir, on behalf of the church, your brethren in the United States, it will be well-wisher,

JAMES WALLIS, matter of surprise to some parties that he

THOMAS WALLIS,

JONATHAN HINE. is not taken by the hand, supported as an

WM. POWERS, evangelist, and recommended by the offi

HENRY MEEKLY, cers of the church in Nottingham, some of

WILLIAM MARTIOTT. whom have been chosen, in a measure, to

To Mr. John Thomas. direct in these matters. A short time That our readers may know something after J. T. arrived in London, the following of the object of Mr. Thomas, in visiting letter, with his address, came to hand: this country, we insert the following an172, Spring-street, New York, May 30, 1848.

nouncement from the Morning Star, pubBeloved Brother Wallis- Before repairing to our

lished in New York, June 3d, 1848:house, No. 80, Green-street, to hear him once more,

True MISSIONARY SPIRIT.-John Thomas, M D. I cannot rob myself of the honor of writing you a

President of the Scientific and Electric Medical Inword by which to introduce to your personal ac

stitute of Virginia. sails in the De Witt Clinton, for quaintance and Christian courtesies, our very highly

Liver pool, on a tour through England and Scotland, es eemed Brother, Dr. John Thomas. Richmond,

to invite public attention to European affairs," as Virginia, United States. He is on a tour through

evidental of the near approach of the kingdom of England and Scotland to proclaim, at his own charge

God." We understand that Dr. Thomas pays his if necessary, in this fearful crisis of the world's his.

own expenses. tory, the "i gospel of the kingdom.” In submitting to the divine injunction, "prove all things, hold fast In the same paper appears an article from that which is good," I am sure you will procure a

the pen of Mr. Thomas, entitled “The hearing for him, and it so you will hav the riches of Moses, the Prophets, and the Psalms laid before you,

Times we live in.” It is dated on board and all made to enhance the glory of the Christ whom the De Witt Clinton, bound for Liverpool, you love, and to adorn the everlasting kingdom over May 29, 1848. On this article the Editor which he must quickly descend to take possession, and to reign in with all his saints gloriously. Receive

remarks as follow : him kindly, Brother Wallis, and you will prove him A communication appears in our columns to-day to be both a Christian and a gentleman, conflicting from Dr. Thomas, of Virginia. We publish it as we testimony to the con rarv notwithstanding. Accept

do other advertisements, not holding ourselves anmy own and Sarah's Christian love, all of you, and

swerable for its doctrines. oblige, yours in the hope of incorruptibility when Christ coines,

J. and S. BEADMAN.

With the feeling and sentiment of these

observations, so far as Mr. Thomas's inOn the evening of the same day, July

fallibility is concerned, we most cordially 4th, when upward of forty brethren and

concur. But that he may speak for him. sisters, including all the officers of the church were present, the subject was intro

self, we shall give the article verbatim. duced, being fully and impartially, in our THE TIMES WE LIVE IN. judgment, laid before them. At the con MR. EDITOR-Have you space in your clusion of the meeting it was unanimously columns, crowded as they are with the hisagreed, that unless we had further recom. trionic details of these eventful and ominous mendatory documents than those in our 'times, for a few sober statements of the

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