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even so ? Where now are the ancient misapplication No. 3 dispose of this. kingdoms of Egypt, Ammon, Moab, It certainly affords not the slightest Edom, Philistia, Tyre, and the re-proof that few Gentiles will be saved nowned empires of Assyria, Baby- at the coming of the Lord. lonia, Medo-Persia, Macedonia, and I have now said all I purpose sayRome? Have they not all vanished | ing at present on the subject of the away like smoke, and they that dwelt misapplication of scripture by J. F.. therein died in like manner ? See Permit me now to throw a few what wide-spread plains of desolation obstacles in the way of J. Fi's there are, which were once thickly theories. peopled! and then say if this remark- / 1. He affirms “ the destruction of able prediction, so far as these nations the wicked, and the conflagration of are concerned, has not received a the heavens and the earth, at the most literal accomplishment.
coming of the Lord.” 6. Jer. iv. 23 to 25. It is passing Now, how will J. F. reconcile this strange how J. F. can see in this statement with the following passages : passage any proof of his new-broached Ezek. xxxvi. 36-37-38, xxxix. and theory. Nothing can be clearer, from 21, to the end; Zeph. iii. 19, 20; the whole context, than that the pro- Zec. xiv. 16-19. From these pasphet is predicting the destruction that sages it is evident that both the should come upon Jerusalem and the Israelites and the heathen will be in cities of Judah, and the desolation of existence, not only when the Lord the promised land, when God's judg- comes, but for a long period after his ments should have overtaken it, and coming. rid it of its inhabitants. Let those Again: Is it not said by the enterprising travellers who have ex- Psalmist, in reference to the Lord, plored it testify if it is not even so. “ Ask of me, and I shall give thee
7. Isa. li. 16. And pray, J. F. the heathen for thine inheritance, and what secret is Isaiah here revealing ? | the uttermost parts of the earth for Not, surely, that the saints, who are thy possession.” But if they are all alive at the coming of the Lord, shall to be consumed, how can he have be caught up into the air to escape them for an inheritance or a posthe flames of a burning world, and session ? then descend to re-people the new Again : J. F. virtually refutes his earth. Is not the prophet rather own proposition by admitting the revealing the secret of God's provi- return of the unbelieving Jews to dential care over his ancient people, the land of Canaan. He says they whom he had “covered with the will return when the Lord comes, shadow of his hand,” and most won- and that they will continue in unbederfully preserved amongst the na- | lief until that period. Now, if they tions; and that their heavens (their continue in unbelief until the Lord political and national existence), which comes, how will they escape the have so long been covered with black- general destruction of the wicked ? ness and clothed with sackcloth (the And if they do return at that period, emblem of grief and mourning), may notwithstanding their unbelief, then be “ planted” again, and their founda- what becomes of J. F.'s theory of the tions laid? Then shall the Lord rejoice desiruction of the wicked? over then, to build and to plant, J. F.'s sixth proposition is, “There and their seed and their name shall will be a new heavens and a new be as stable as the new heavens and earth in the Millennium.” Literally the new earth in which they shall new, the old ones having been condwell.
sumed and vanished away. How 8. Isa. xxiv. 6. The remarks on will he reconcile this statement with
the scriptural declarations, that the be the period of their triumph ? Why, saints shall “reign with Christ a then, should not the living sainis thousand years," and that they shall share in it? Besides, how inconreign ON THE EARTH, and have power | gruous it would appear for the resurover the nations, to rule them with a rected and glorified saints to be rod of iron, and break them in pieces swaying a sceptre of iron rule over as a potter's vessel. (See also Psalm their living brethren on the earth. cxlix. 5 to end.) Now, how can J. F. contends for the return of the either Christ or the saints "reign on Jews : so do I; and not only of the the earth,” and sway the sceptre of Jews, but of both houses of Israel. universal empire and dominion over J. F. says they shall return “ when the nations, if, when they come to the Lord comes, and not before." reign, the earth be consumed, and! But is it not evident, from Zec. xiv. the nations destroyed ?
and Ezek. xxxviii. and xxxix. that J. F.'s seventh proposition is, they shall have been in possession of “ There will be a time previous to the land some time before the Lord the new heavens and the new earth, comes; and that his appearing is not while the old ones are being destroyed, to be the signal for their return, but that there will be neither men, beasts, for their deliverance from the overnor birds to be seen.”
whelming power of the armies of the It will be soon enough to throw opposing nations, who shall think to obstacles in the way of this proposi- make an easy prey of them, and lead tion when something tangible is | them again into captivity ? brought in support of it. Neverthe The Apostle Paul does not say less, I opine that, unless J. F. can that they shall not return before the dispose of the objections to the two Lord comes ; but that “there shall preceding propositions, he will not come out of Zion the deliverer, and be able to establish this.
shall turn away UNGODLINESS from J. F. doubts concerning the change Jacob.” “And I will pour upon the of the living saints at the coming of house of David, and upon the inhathe Lord. What, then, will he make bitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of of the Apostle John's statement, grace and of supplications; and they “ that when he (the Lord) shall ap- shall look upon me whom they have pear, we shall be like him; and pierced, and they shall mourn for Paul's, that the Lord Jesus Christ him, as one mourneth for his only shall change the vile bodies of the son, and shall be in bitterness for saints, and fashion them like unto him, as one that is in bitterness for his own glorious body?” John iii. 2 ; his first-born,” Zec. xii. 10. Thus Phil. iii. 21.
it seems they shall be in the land; Now, both John and Paul speak and when they recognize in their in general terms. They do not say deliverer him whom they rejected that the vile bodies of the SLEEPING and pierced, they shall grievously saints ONLY shall be changed and mourn for their hardness of heart. made glorious like unto the glorified I now close my remarks, and combody of the Saviour ; but they em- mend the subject to the serious and ploy terms which include all the candid examination of J. F. and the the saints: “When he appears, we readers of the “ Harbinger” in shall be like him ;" “ he shall change general. our vile bodies ;” and this quite I remain, dear brother, yours in agrees with what is said both to the the “one hope,” brethren at Corinth and at Thessa- |
JOSEPH WILSON. lonica. Again: When the Lord | Halifax, June 16, 1848. comes with his saints, will not that!
likeness of his death, burial, and CORRESPONDENCE.
resurrection. Until you can show MR. EDITOR-In your number of that all the Apostle says in the pasthe Harbinger for this month you sage is literally true, the Scotch bring a very serious charge against Baptists will consider baptism to be the Scotch Baptists in your remarks only a figurative representation of on what “ Frater” says to P. C. Gray. that by which sins are forgiven and You affirm that the Scotch Baptists washed away, and not the instruhave an inveterate hatred and un- mental cause of their forgiveness, so mistaken opposition against baptism zealously contended for by you and for the remission of sins, although it your friends. But you might contend, is repeatedly commanded by the Holy with as much plausibility, that the Spirit. The amount of their hatred bread and wine used in the figurative is, that they consider you and your institutions of the supper are really friends are in error when you and and truly the body and blood of the they affirm that baptism is the instru- Lord; for both Jesus and Paul affirm mental cause of the pardon of sin. that the bread is his body and the On the other hand, the Scotch Bap- wine is his blood; while no more is tists consider baptism to be a figura- intended than that the bread and tive representation of the death, wine are representations of his body burial, and resurrection of Jesus and blood. Christ. They think no other view Now, baptism is evidently a figuof it will harmonize with what Paul rative institution ; why should it not says upon that subject to the church be explained upon the same principles of Rome, in the 6th chapter. The as we explain other figurative instiApostle says, as many of us as have tutions. Paul affirms that the Rock been baptized into Christ, have been in the wilderness was Christ, while it baptized into his death. We have was only a figure of him. In the been buried, then, together with him Revelations made to John, it is by baptism into death, and raised affirmed that the seven stars are with him. Now, surely the Apostle seven messengers of the congregawould not have affirmed all this un- tions, and the seven lamps are seven less it had been really true that this congregations, while they were only connection with Christ was signified representations of them. Sarah and to them in their baptism. I may now Hagar are termed two institutions, ask you, Mr. Editor, if it can be said, while they only represented two inin truth, that believers, when baptized, stitutions. Instances of this kind are are baptized into Christ's death, if his numerous in scripture, of affirming to death is not represented in baptism ? figurative representations the things Again ; how can it be said, in truth, that only are true of what was rethat they are buried together with presented by them. To conclude : him by baptism into death, if the As no figure can possess any moral burial of Christ is not represented in worth, and as baptism is evidently a baptism? Once more. Can it be figurative institution, it is inconsistent, said, in truth, that they are raised both with scripture and common with him in baptism, if Christ's re- sense, to maintain that it is the surrection is not represented in bap- instrumental cause of the pardon of tism? It is evident, then, that Paul sin ; while it is neither more nor less considered that the whole gospel was than a figurative representation of the represented in baptism, viz. the death, death, burial, and resurrection of burial, and resurrection of Christ ; Jesus Christ, through which sins and that believers were planted to- / alone are pardoned and washed gether in his visible kingdom in the l away.
Dear Sir, by giving this a place in ions, have lost their charm in our esyour next number, you will much timation. Would to God they were oblige,
obliterated from society, and more A Scotch BAPTIST. especially from among the followers Edinburgh, May 15, 1848. of the Lord ! If the Christian name,
faith, and character, with the true
organization of apostolic Christianity, REPLY TO A SCOTCH BAPTIST.
were substituted in place of human Dear Sir--You will, we doubt not, ecclesiastical distinctions, much would agree with us, that divine truth, be accomplished towards realizing a when clearly presented to the mind, I better state of things in the kingdom is penetrating and momentous— of Jesus. We wonder whether there 66 quick and powerful, sharper than were Corinthian Baptists in Jerusaany two-edged sword.” It is so in this lem, and Jerusalem Baptists in Coworld, but how much more so when we rinth, in the apostolic age, each anstand in the visible presence of Him tagonistic to the other, yet each who is ready to judge the living and claiming to be the body of Christ ? the dead at Ilis appearing in His Is Christ thus divided ? Surely not. kingdom. Then its majesty, purity, The writer seems to think that as and immutability will be fully realized a body we are in error because we both by saint and sinner. This ought speak of baptism as the instrumental to be the case, in some degree, in the cause by which a sinner obtains the present state of being.
testimony of God for the remission of In the remarks we have to make, sins ; while again, on the other hand, we shall take it for granted that nei- speaking of baptism only as a figure of ther our correspondent nor ourselves, the death, burial, and resurrection of nor any of the brethren with which Christ, he and his brethren are, in this we both stand connected, desire to be particular, following the whole truth. deemed in error in our views of the Baptism, therefore, on this principle, is character, work, and institutions of simply a command to be attended to the great Messiah. Being equally by those who are already in a state of sincere and upright, the Bible is read | pardon and justification before God. to ascertain the mind of the Spirit as It is also expressive of the determinatherein revealed, that we may stand tion of the immersed to walk in newcomplete in all the will of God. If ness of life. But what this newness we are then finally mistaken, it will of life is, if the parties were previously not be for the want of a Bible or sin- in a state of pardon and justification, cerity, but of faith in that which is appears to us difficult to define. It developed ; or because we allow the must be obvious that the whole of traditions and commandments of men divine truth, as well as Christian into occupy that place in the mind stitutions, are but the instrumental which alone belongs to Christ and means appointed to accomplish an his truth ; or, it may be, that know- important end, viz. the salvation of ing the truth we refuse to practice it. the sinner. Amid all the instrumenThese are prevalent causes of delusion tality employed to accomplish various in the present day.
purposes, the Bible is the only instruYou will please to observe, that in ment by which we can obtain a knowour remarks on what “ Frater” says ledge of God, and of Jesus Christ of Brother Gray, page 214, the term whom he has sent to be the Saviour 6 Scottish Baptist” does not occur. of sinners. Indeed, Scotch Baptist in England, By the term figure, type, or emand English Baptist in Scotland, with blem, is intended the transfer of one all other human ecclesiastical distinct-1 object, either in word or action, to represent another object. Thus the cause their feelings have been operated figure in thought, when clothed in upon by some external circumstances, words, becomes a figure of speech. causing happiness and peace, are The type is that species of emblem by taught to consider themselves born which one object is made to represent again, their feelings alone being the another mystically : it is, therefore, evidence by which they can decide only employed in religious matters. this important question ; but he that All the remarkable events under the trusteth to his own heart is pronounced law were types either of Christ or of by God to be a simpleton. his institutions. Now in the gospel Now turning from all these imagidispensation, baptism and the Lord's nations of men, let us examine the supper are typical and instrumental. teaching and practice of the Apostles The former has regard to man who, al- of the Lord, who were appointed our though changed in heart, is in a state infallible guides on the great subject of sin—the latter has regard to man of salvation, and who were furnished in a state of pardon. The gospel in with every fact, command, promise, the concrete contains the power of and institution of the Christian sysGod to the salvation of every one tem. Being filled with the Holy who believes it. The proclamation of Spirit they commenced the work of the fact that Jesus is the Christ, the giving gospel law to the nations, that Son of the living God—that he died the world might be blesseed in the seed for our sins, was buried, and rose of Abraham, and all nations call him again for our justification, constitutes blessed. the only foundation of human hope. I Every kingdom or dispensation The mere belief of this fact will save must have a commencement, and a no one. He who believes and is bap- starting point. Hence time, place, tized, shall be saved.
| law, and the obedience of law, claim The Christian system, in the first our attention. The laws regulating instance, has more to do with the the Jewish theocracy were promulmind and conscience of a sinner than gated from Mount Sinai; and to this with his body. The former must be law, as well as to all the previous cirenlightened and purified, and so pre-cumstances connected with the history pared to control and govern the latter of their nation, the Jews were com(Titus ii. ll, 12.) The heart of a manded constantly to refer (Malachi sinner being quickened, or begotten iv. 4) until the coming of Messiah. by the Word of Truth, the blessings When he appeared a new law was of pardon and peace are eagerly sought given, not for the Jews only, but for after-blessings which must be con- the whole world. This law, in fulfilveyed into the mind (Heb. x. 16) in ment of ancient prophecy and the some real or imaginary form. How command of Jesus, was to go forth is this to be accomplished ? Some from Mount Zion, and the word of suppose by earnest prayer—others by the Lord from Jerusalem, (Isa. ii. 3, sprinkling water, and prayer---others, Luke xxiv. 47) which were literally again, by a stream of the Holy Spirit, fulfilled and established when the last without either words or institu- Pentecost of the Jewish theocracy tions, descending into the sinner's heart was fully come. The Apostles and and imparting peace to the troubled disciples of the Lord were assembled conscience-a fourth party speak of with one accord in one place, when an appropriating faith that Jesus is on a sudden there was a sound from the Lamb of God who taketh away heaven as of a rushing violent wind, the sins of the world, and therefore, and it filled all the house where they without any act or deed on their part, were sitting ; and they were all filled all is right; and lastly, others, be- with the Holy Spirit. The Apostle